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Mike asked:
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One of the rules of physics is: opposites attract each other. Therefore, if an atheist exists, so must a
God?
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This argument might convince the converted, but who else?
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Premise: "One of the rules of physics is: opposites attract each other." This is false. It would be more
accurate to say: "One of the rules of physics is: if two particles exist and have charges of opposite
signs, they will attract each other."
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Hidden induction: "What holds true for physical particles will hold true for anything, including persons
such as atheists and gods."
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If we were to allow this (but why would we?), we could deduce that: "If a God and an atheist exist and
are opposites, they will attract each other."
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Hidden premise: "God and an atheist are opposites." It's much more common to believe that "God
and Devil are opposites." and that "An atheist and a theist are opposites." But let's allow for the
moment that the premise is true. Then we know that: "If a God and an atheist exist, because they are
opposites, they will attract each other."
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Hidden premise: "A God and an atheist exist." Easy to demonstrate the second part! OK, suppose
God exists. Mike has now proven that God and the atheist attract each other.
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What form does this attraction take, I wonder? In what way does the atheist move towards God?
From my own observation, I've noticed that the few acknowledged atheists of my acquaintance have
all been, personally, singularly indifferent to the concept of God. They find it irrelevant.
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In the form in which Mike asked his question, it seems that he supposes that "IF one particle exists,
then another, oppositely charged particle, must also exist." Surely not! The principle of physics he
alludes to in his explicit Premise is not an existence proof. Based on that Premise alone, there is no
reason to suppose that the universe consists of anything but, say, all positive particles without a
single negative particle anywhere.
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Yahya Abdal-Aziz
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Your argument appears to run like this
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1. Opposites attract
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2. Atheists deny God exists
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3. Therefore atheists are opposite to God
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4. Atheists therefore attract God
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5. To attract God, God must exist.
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One major problem here is that the argument can be used to show that anything exists consider
changing 2 to;
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2'. John denies fairies exist
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3'. John is therefore opposite to fairies.
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4'. Fairies therefore exist.
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If your argument is valid then we are committed to a huge ontology whereby denial of a thing's
existence entails that it exists. I think therefore that something is wrong with your argument! Looking
at 3 I think it is unfair to define someone who denies a things existence as the opposite to thing, is
someone who denies the existence of a round-square the opposite of that thing? What would it even
mean to say that you are the opposite of a round square? It is hard to spell out isn't it.
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Not knowing the exact formulation of the physical law that opposites attract I suspect it deals with
specific physical bodies, and is not applicable to our mental states. Even if you say it does then all
you are entitled to say is that one mental sate i.e. atheism is attracted to another mental sate theism;
not that the mental state atheism is attracted to God.
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Mike Lee
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