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Eric asked:

I am obsessed with this mind issue. Last answer was highly satisfactory. I began to read the
references you sent me. Thanks a lot. In this one I want to bore you with some novice theories about
mind, if you allow me.

I believe that mind works pretty much a Hierarchical Petri Net. In each level there is one statement,
that can be modeled with places and transitions.

Let "Is Eric Good?" be a question asked to me. Let this question in its context be defined with two
places and one transition, when I am subjected to this question.

In lower levels, I have multiple small nets in various levels and details connected to the concept
"Eric", as well as "Goodness".

"Eric hit me", "Eric's sister is Jane", "Eric went to college" etc. "Elephants are good", "Bad is not
Good", "Getting beaten is bad", etc.

These chunks are further linked to others like "Jane is a girl", "Jane is good".

I believe that man keeps his experiences in chunks like the ones above, very tiny nets with one or two
places and transitions. However when asked a question, or while making an exercise man gets into
these small chunks, decomposes each of these transitions and places, forms up new nets during run
time, and aggregates them to come at a conclusion which is also a tiny net.

Turning back to my example, I conclude that "Eric is Bad". When asked the question, I simply run
through the nets in the lower level, associate "Eric hit me" as "Something Bad" and conclude that
"Eric should also be bad".

Now what I do is not just finding a "path" in the mathematical sense. If it was so I could easily come
up with "Jane is Good" as an answer to the question. The process involves "path finding" but is much
more complex.

Anyways, I was thinking that this was a good beginning for a modeling effort about how mind works
and wanted to share it with you. I need to read more about this type of research.

Could you recommend me a couple of books/articles: 1) that looks at the issue through hierarchical
nets and graph theory, preferably Petri Nets. 2) that contains my theory about runtime graph
formation. 3) If people tried to explain this thing through graph theory and could not succeed please
let me know about that as well. I do not want to waste a life on this :)

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I assume you know about this site, then: http://www.daimi.au.dk/PetriNets/.

But here's one general point. There are many, manyways to approach and to model the mind.
Various types of networks are one, of which Petri and graph theory are two categories. It may be that
they are formally identical. I will give you some other references below; you can find all the Petri stuff
you want at the above site. The danger, if you have not yet done much reading, is to take oneof
those as theway, and spend enormous amounts of time and energy at it. This is the danger of too
narrow an education in any field. IF your goal is to take the Petri Net and elaborate it, and see what
can be done with it, then, fine, go with that particular approach. IF your goal is to model or to think
about the mind, you will be taking one out of dozens of approaches and effectively saying that it is the
correct one. But it isn't, and here's why (and I'm sure many Petri people and others will disagree with
this): the brain is an analogsystem, not a digitalsystem. A computer is a digital system. Can a digital
system "model" an analog one? Yes, certainly. What does "model" mean? Now, there's the question.
I will not go into that here; suffice it to say that there is ongoingdebate on that point. Second, can a
digital system duplicate,functionally (obviously it could only be functionally), an analog system? This
is anotherquestion, notthe same as the last. If you want to createa mind in a computer (a digital
computer), you've got major problems, I think... indeed, I don't think it's possible. But you can model
one, up to a point. There's an important distinction here that many have missed.

So, what approaches should one take to a) modeland b) duplicatemind? But you see that these are
two different questions. Your approach above will not duplicate mind. But it might model it to a certain
extent.

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